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of conflict? do we want to look at legislation? do we want to put policies in place that allow us to defend ourselves before we get to a point where we say, i wish that teacher had it. by the time we get to that point, it was too late. >> hailey, were your surprised by the press conference? >> i have been optimistic for the official statement all week, and i have to say i was very disappointed. i think that their statement was a pretty huge disservice to their membership and all, i know wonderful members of the nra who have fantastic expertise, are very smart, are very, could be wonderful resources in this. and i really think that statement did not reflect any sort of an engaging discourse and engaging in dialogue. i was shocked at how much of a monologue it was, actually. >> and there's this emerging idea, and i think it is an emerging idea that's a hopeful idea in liberal circles, so i want to reality check it, that there's this gap between the nra and its membership. you will see this statistic on polling and about specific regulatory initiatives. and i'm just curious how much you think
's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. wants new gun laws, right now. this is the ed show. let's get to work. >> we're going to change things. it's going to take a wave of americans, mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, pastors, law enforcement, mental health professionals, and yes, gunowners standing up and saying enough. >> the president lays out the way forward for sensible gun policy. so why are no republicans getting on board? i'll ask congressman jerrold nadler. >> at some point they have to take me out of it and think about what is best for the country. >> the president served up painful cuts, and republicans are literally running away from the table. >> hey, mr. speaker. >> congressman steve israel reacts to the gop's bizarre behavior. plus, today's big gm news means the death of a righty talking point. >> government motors. >> government motors. >> government motors, david cay johnston on a huge success story for government intervention. and the i
out he wants former u.s. senator chuck hagel in nebraska for secretary of defense. he's a republly can and a combat veteran of vietnam. the neocons are out to stop him for what he is and what they aren't. he served in war right up front. he opposed unness wars like the ones we've been fighting. fighting and getting ourselves into all of these years. in other words, they opposed the secretary of defense who thinks the man is the commander in chief. there's not an obama vote among them, by the way. u.s. congressman and democrat from virginia. gentlemen, let's talk about the first of these fights. mr. moran, thank you for joining us. tonight, the republicans are engaging in i don't know whether it's a wild goose chase, some sign of something, some test of what? a weakness? why are they voting on something that won't even get to the senate, will never get near the president's desk and if it ever did, he'd love vetoing it. this idea of cutting the tax cuts or protecting the tax cuts of people, all the way up to a million a year. >> they're planning some kind of weird, political kobookie dan
lincoln, and spider-man. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the president gave all americans a lot to work with today and a lot to think about in the coming weeks. president obama recognizes the mood of the country. there is a real sense of urgency to pass common sense safety laws in the wake of the newtown shooting massacre. the president knows this is going to be a heavy lift. >> that's why i've asked the vice president to lead an effort that includes members of my cabinet and outside organizations to come up with a set of concrete proposals no later than january, proposals that i then intend to push without delay. this is not some washington commission. this is not something where folks are going to be studying the issue for six months and publishing a report that gets read and then pushed aside. >> one of the reasons the president is asking for action without delay is because he knows change can be accomplished, and it's been done before. the assault weapons ban signed by president clinton reduced crime lower than it had been in a generation. it's been 18 ye
, man. thank you. thank you to those of you at home for joining us for this hour. after what has been honestly an amazing day of news. it was 3:342 eastern this afternoon when nbc news, network news broke into regular programming with an exclusive special report. watch. ♪ >> this is an nbc news special report. here's brian williams. >> good day. we're coming on the air right now to break exclusive word that the united states ambassador to the united nations, ambassador susan rice, has transmitted word to the president of the united states that she is withdrawing her own name from any future consideration for nomination to become perhaps the next secretary of state following hillary rodham clinton. >> that was the news broken today by nbc at 3:40 in the afternoon. susan rice remains the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. and a high-profile one at that. she's known for being very close to president obama, a long-time friend and ally for the president. she's also known for being blunt. and for being aggressively intelligent. she is a rhodes scholar. she's stanford educated. she was
't know it. look at the leadership that we have leading us. i mean, it's like lemmings. come on. >> all right. that's what's being said right now. joining us from capitol hill is nbc news correspondent mike viqueira. we have some elements from what we understand to be a deal at the moment. what would you say the mood is right now? what are some of the other details? break it down for us. >> richard, it's funny. at this point we're stuck sort of reading tea leaves. yes, we've had indications with more detail than we've got in days on what the outlines of that deal might be. but i got to tell you any deal if it were to pass both houses of congress here in the last 12 hours before midnight would carry with it the seeds of further confrontation and not that much further down the road. maybe two, perhaps three months. let's take a look one more time at what is being discussed now. mitch mcconnell and joe biden talked into the wee hours until 12:30 last night and 6:30 this morning. $450,000 as the threshold for couples, $400,000 for individuals over which your taxes would go up about four per
evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's fitting that we're doing this in a room with windows about three inches thick. >> and oh baby, the palace makes it official, there was a reason she's been toasting with water, not wine. the duke and duchess are expecting. happy days. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washi
if it goes the wrong way. >> professor, great to have you with us. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. ezra cline filling in for "the rachel maddow show" tonight. >> good evening. a dreary december day turned out to be full of news today including big news out of the supreme court. and one of the coolest pictures ever having a big revooufl. but we begin with important news out of washington. for all the squabbling politicians and the whining pundits, we can announce to you tonight, right here, right now, there's a budget deal that's becoming clear. our long national nightmare might almost, and i repeat, it's washington, almost be over. this is kind of like one of those kids games where you have to look at a picture that looks like nonsense until your eyes filter out the garbage and you can finally see the sailboat. that's what's going on in washington. you have to filter out the garbage. take yesterday for example. i don't tune into c-span 2 for comedy, just because it's good television. but the senate was being hilarious about the debt ceiling, wh
are the chances of them getting their ducks in a row, boehner getting his ducks in a row and us still being able to avoid the krif? >> right. we should have a better sense of that by tomorrow afternoon when they start to reconvene. speaker boehner made it clear at the meeting at the white house on friday, anything that the senate passes will be considered by the house, might be amended, might be changed a bit. has to go back to the senate quick for changes. but he said will indeed be considered. the question, can perhaps all the democrats plus at least some republicans, come together to pass something while a bunch of conservative republicans will oppose it, because it's raising taxes for one thing. >> the issue of taxes, is this a consequence of really what happens with bush 41? who is recovering in the hospital, by the way, right now and certainly our thoughts are with him. when he broke that pledge, read my lips, no new taxes, that was a real turning point for republic i had dans thought he lost that election because he went back on that pledge and raise taxes. will you get anyone in the hous
of a task force to curb gun violence. >> if those of us who were sent here to serve the public trust can summon even one tiny iota of the courage those teachers, that principal, in newtown summoned on friday, if cooperation and common sense prevail, then i'm convinced we can make a sensible, intelligent way to make the united states of america a safer -- >> well, the president's statement gets largely overshadowed by questions about the fiscal cliff, a final question hits home. >> this is not the first issue, the first incident with horrific gun violence of your four years. where have you been? >> well, here's where i've been, jake, i've been president of the united states dealing with the worst economic crisis since the great depression, an auto industry on the verge of collapse, two wars. i don't think i've been on vacation. and, so, i think all of us have to do some reflection on how we prioritize what we do here in washington. >>> in newtown today, funerals for five of the victims, including principal dawn hochsprung and teacher victoria soto. classes will resume for sandy
. >>> good morning. it's tuesday. december 4th. welcome to "morning joe." with us onset, we have msnbc senior political analyst mark haleprin. oh, my god, please stop. just get it off. get it off -- >> pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. "the art of power." >> so you know why i'm doing this. last night, mika goes to madison square garden thinking she's going to see one direction and teenage girls screaming and all that. >> yeah. >> instead, her car gets sidetracked, she winds up at the 92nd street "y," and there are a bunch of screaming girls at the "y." jon meacham's new number one selling book. >> i tried to hand your book out last night at the concert. they weren't interested. >> well, they've probably already got it. >> i've never been to a pop concert. >> did it change your life? >> i have never witnessed such an epic meltdown on the part of thousands and thousands of teenage girls. >> metdown. screaming -- >> screaming. >> other than the group that was at the 92nd street "y" last night that screamed at jon meacham. he was throwing wigs at them. >> jefferson versus one directio
president obama used to say over and over again about tax rates? about what his plan was for tax rates? president obama was crystal clear about what he wanted. >> i have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president. i want to reform the tax codes so that it's simple, fair, and asks the wealthiest households to pay taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president. we have to ask you and me and the wealthiest among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back to the clinton tax rates. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red line, if you ask if he will accept anything else, he doesn't really answer. >> tax rates. are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the
is at a loss. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the tax code will help us get our economy working faster and put more americans back to work and more americans with tax rules. how we get there, god only knows. >> god only knows? mr. speaker, you're supposed to know. you are supposed to lead your caucus. you clearly cannot. friday, president obama explained it this way. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> ahh, but what if the goal is to do nothing? then a certain faction of the republican party is getting 100% of what they want. the republicans refusing to vote on a deal at all is their mandate because the ideological emphasis apparently shifted from politics and policy together and over to the process itself. the goal? do nothing. on purpose. bring government to its knees and drown it in a bathtub. will they do the same to our nation? with me at the table is richard kim, bob herbert, angela ride, and attorney raul rraez. wh
, the revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone. the aircraft was flying in iran's airspace and brought down by electronic jamming. we're working to confirm this story. more details as soon as we have them. elsewhere, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2
rate of 3.1% and risk sparking another recession. joining us now to break it down from washington is cnbc's john harwood. thanks for being here. >> hey, ari. >> remind us where we were before plan b, how far apart were the last comprehensive offers between the president and negotiators? >> a few hundred billion dollars, which is a lot of money, sounds like a lot of money, but in the context of a ten-year budget deal when you have some very large programs that can be tweaked one way or another, is not that much. they were within shouting distance if the speaker could bring his caucus along to support the deal that he was promoting and getting close to striking with the president, but it's clear from the failure of plan b he could not bring them along for that deal, and the real question now, ari, is whether or not the speaker is going to be willing to take to the house floor something that could pass with a preponderance of democratic votes and significant chunk of republicans. i think in the end whatever is done, whether it happens before january 1st or after january 1st, that wil
system, but a spokesperson said that he used a gun to enter the school and then went on a terrible rampage. there was a huge service here last night at the catholic church. when i talked to the monsignor this morning, he talked about some interfaith service, but the grief is so huge, and so many people want a way to express it, they did not think they would have a facility large enough, and it is so cold here, they did not want to hold it outside. i saw a sign coming in this morning at the local episcopal church, they will have a service at noon today, and the individual stories that you can imagine are absolutely heartbreaking about the people in the room who had to tell the parent parents that their children were among those who were not coming home. the monsignor told me he expects six funerals this week, and one of the little girls who was killed was going to be an angel on christmas eve. melissa. >> chris jansing, thank you so much. in newtown, and this is a tough reporting, and you have been there on the ground for us, and thank you for that. >> thank you. >> let's go now to
on another front tonight. the word is out he wants former u.s. senator chuck hagel of nebraska for secretary of dft defense. hagel is a republican and a combat veterans of vietnam. he would be first vietnam vet to head the pentagon. the neocons are out to stop him. he served in war right up front. he opposed unnecessary wars like the ones we have been fighting. fighting and getting ours into. in other words they oppose a secretary of dft who thinks like the man who is now the commander in chief. there is not an obama vote among them. jim moran, democrat from virginia, and eugene robinson. let's talk about the first of the fights. mr. moran, thaub for joining us. tonight the republicans are engaging in i don't know if it's a wild goose chase, some sign of something, some test of weakness. why are they voting on something that won't even get to the senate, will never get near the president's desk, and if it ever did, he'd love vetoing it? this idea of cutting off the tax cuts or rather protecting the tax cuts for people all the way up to $1 million a year? >> they're playing some kind of weird
watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectat
speaker presents us with very little option. >> it's time for the speaker to wake up to the simple reality that to deal with this national crisis we have to deal with it on a bipartisan basis. it means that he has to sit down with the president. >>> senate foreign relations holds hearings on benghazi, on the attack, but without the secretary of state. >> secretary clinton is recovering from a serious virus and concussion, and given her condition it was simply not possible for her to appear today. >> and if senator kerry ends up succeeding hillary clinton as secretary of state, could we see a hollywood star m senate? >>> president obama for secretary of defense. chick hagel is not a responsible option. >> the nation's leaders come together today to say farewell to hawaii senator dan yet inoyhe. >> he was in every sense the quintessential american. he possessed every virtue that we like to ascribe. >> i'm andrea mitchell. that was a rare honor for danny inyohe. he is only the 31st person in history to lie in state in the rotunda. we expect to hear today from speaker john boehner. very shortl
us off the cliff. >>> another major story from the weekend, it was an emotional weekend in the nfl and in kansas city as the chiefs took the field on sunday just 24 hours after a tragedy involving a key member of their team. police say linebacker jovan belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, the mother of his infant daughter. minutes later he took his own life in the parking lot of arrowhead stadium where the chiefs play right in front of his coaches. nbc's tan trareporter. >> reporter: kansas city head coach romeo crennel wiped away tears on the sideline one day after witnessing linebacker jovan belcher taking his own life. >> i'm choosing not to answer any questions about what i saw yesterday. and i think that you will understand that, and hopefully you will respect my wishes on that because it wasn't a pretty sight. >> reporter: belcher shot himself here at this practice facility at famed arrowhead stadium. crennel told police the 25-year-old belcher thanked him and general manager scott pioli for all they did for him. and then fired the fatal shots. >> our prayers go out to the
're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place. with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth right now. and if i were a major leag
ederter for politics and news at yahoo! news. she has become a weekend pal. thanks for being back with us, both of you. let's start with the debt limit, we're talking about the debt limit, again. do republicans believe this is their ace in the hole? >> i sure hope they don't. i think the president has the stronger hand on this. number one, he won the election. we're all discussing that. he has the stronger hand in general. the other thing is that everybody remembers what we went through two summers ago. the summer of 2011 when the nation went through default. people felt that the president handled the situation badly, but they felt the republican congress was much worse in that particular negotiation. i don't think the republicans in trying to reestablish their brand want to get back into that fight and look like they want to have the ability to hold up the debt ceiling and then potentially bring the nation back to the edge of default, again. >> i want to play a snippet here of what majority leader harry reid said this week said about the fiscal. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work ou
. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set here in new york city, we have msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. >> in my ear, mika. >> no, he was at the white house. >> i don't understand. where's t.j.? >> he's off today. >> why's that? >> he was busy. he went to the white house. >> that's great. you know, alex went to the white house, too. >> and drove back himself. >> let me get this straight. so alex goes to the white house last night. >> mm-hmm. >> because, you know, right-wing bloggers, we actually -- that's how we get our talking points. they go down -- valerie and david axelrod together make a big pot roast for us. >> mm-hmm. >> and lots of gravy. and we sit around eating it. and i, of course, say okay, give me extra gravy. i'm good with it. >> right. >> best sweet tea i've ever had. >> there's a give and take. >> actually, it was a christmas party. go ahead and do your blog. you sure as hell didn't get mitt romney to like it. they're not attacking me. i wouldn't know. i don't read it. so t.j. goes down. this is big. it's big. alex comes back. >> drove back. >> and he works. >> drove fr
's -- not a serious proposal. so right now we're almost nowhere. >> >> mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. where is almost nowhere? >> it's inside the beltway and it's business as usual. it's also december 1st, alex, and we have exactly one month now to avert the fiscal cliff and avert what everybody agrees would be economic catastrophe. of course that combination of $500 billion, a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for americans, about $2200 just next year alone for the average family. $100 billion in spending cuts, automatic spending cuts, part of that sequester, from the deal that we went through last year that we took right up to the last minute. so, there are two things that are clear here after the president's proffer, one the president and the white house feel as though they have the upper hand here, there's no question about it. number two, they're playing hardball. number three, i'll add a third one, we are in the preliminary stages, believe it or not, as we enter this final month. here are the basic outlines of what the president is proposing, $1.6 trillion in new rev
used a loath of both. well, that's it for 2012 revvies. i'd like to thank our glittering panel. we know that 2013 will bring us more to talk about and more chances to hand out the revvies. thank you for watching. good night to everybody. >> you've been watching the 2012 revvie awards braught to you by "politics nation "and al sharpton. see u you next year. good night, everybody. >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joini
raises a few eyebrows. causes some finger pointing and reminds us of the multibillion-dollar campaign we just went through. good morning from new york city. it's friday, december 7th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. you should always remember this is a day that lives in infamy and if you don't know why, ask your parents or your grandparents to explain. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. as the republican party picks up the pieces and searches for the next generation of leaders, one of the conservative movements most influential icons of late and inside the senate, south carolina's jim demint, stunned his colleagues by resigning to become a full-time political activist. in effect, the ceo of the conservative movement. just two years into his second term demint is leaving the senate to become president of the heritage foundation where he was greeted yesterday with a standing ovation. >> this literally feels like i just walked in the front door of my own house. this organization is in a position to do more to save our country than any organization that i'm
to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is going to matter to somebody, which side is it really going to matter to? ivities the blame is on both sides. what's driven this whole process is republicans are very opposed to -- just the republicans who will vote for any tax increase. we learned last week from the plan b vote. once we go over the cliff, republicans are ready for a tax cut, not an increase. right now that's what the big challenge is. >> chip, is that the biggest strategy here, get to the third and pass the third, the new congress comes in, boehner danger doesn't exist anymore, his speakership stays in place and grover norquist gives a thumbs up to up? >> i don't think that was the strategy a week ago. i think the speaker was trying to put the deal together, as we've seen the senate not -- i think that may become the strategy. i've always thought they would wait until the last hour, put a band eight on it, but wait until the iii so they can vote for a tax cut makes sense as w
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's why i recommend using polident. [ male announcer ] polident. cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. >>> hi. it's high noon in the east. 9:00 in the west. i'm thomas robertson in for alex. here are the stories trending. dangerous mission, american rescue from taliban. royal investigation, british police contact australian authorities over the hoax. sixth round stunner. pull the plug. cancel a new show before it airs. details on those stories throughout the hour. first -- >>> with the battle lines drawn, leading members of both parties square off on the fiscal fight with 23 days and counting. >> the president wants the race to go up. we don't want to be back here in another ten years answering the same questions. right after the election, we sent a plan to the president. we gave revenue, but looking for spending cuts. he took three weeks to come back to us. he's gone on still on the campaign trail, still working through. republicans have not waited to solve this problem. >> congressman is going to struggle with the numbers as mitt romney did during the debates. they don't add up. if
republicans used words like stalemate and nowhere to go describe the current state of play. others within their party are taking it one step further telling americans they should be prepared for the punch. >> i thank the president and tim geithner for re-energizing the republican caucus. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. >> with both sides looking like they are dig in but cementing in and the calendar page ticking down what does it take to play let's make a deal. >> let's see how big yours is versus mine in the earnings of their plans. >> everybody should just go to sleep, wake up on december 14th when there's about a week to go and then you'll start seeing the serious stuff come up. >> we've all been trying to game this out too. will we be here between christmas and new year's. will members be decorating their offices for 2013? >> okay. let's get started here this monday morning and joining me is congresswoman allison schwartz a member of the house budget committee. greet to have you with me. it was boehner versus geithner
? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectations people have about them getting anything done or failing to do what they set out to do. they all set the deadline. they have the -- what do you call it. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going to get hurt the most? >> well, i think the republicans right now are hammering themselves in the foot over and over and over again. at some point they may figure out how to stop doing that. but in the short-term doesn't look like that's happening. i think the low expectations right now are only helpful to th
. we'll take a hard line here and make you come to us. i think the white house is now looking for a response from the hill. if you don't like this, what's your offer. >> okay, so meredith based on what he's saying and speculating about this there may be two ways to look at it. you've got the president who just wants to use this as a starting point for negotiations, despite david saying we want the republicans to come to them. or the president feels he has an election mandate and he's operating from a position of strength. do you know which one it is? >> i actually don't think those things are mutually exclusive, lakers lak alex. he ran as he did in 2008 on raising those top rates on taxes on income over $250,000. so i think this first offer was his way of saying this is the position i'd like to start from. and then the republicans are going to have to show that they're going to be able to meet him in a way that makes sense in order to get a deal before the end of the year. >> david, in your latest article you write "any political negotiation involves a good deal of bluster, pa
on this issue. the american people are not with us on this issue. they think those who have done well can be asked to do more. we're going to have to give. the thaj for the president is to know how much he needs to give to the speaker to allow the speaker to sell that to his own conference. >> i have to bet all of you watching have ideas on where the middle ground lies. do you have a position on that? do you see it? >> i have certainly some idea of where the compromise could be. the president has set a target for how much new revenue he wants. you can get a lot of that by raising the rates above $250. if there was additional eliminations, you can get to the same number and do it in a slightly different way. therefore, the speaker could claim some credit. the president could get the revenue that the country needs. so there are many ways to skin the cat. i don't think we're going over the cliff. i think you're seeing the kind of dance that goes on in the negotiation when people don't want to disclose too early what their bottom line is. >> so you can say there's no appetite to go over the f
. here with us exclusively this morning, the man at the center of that debate, the ceo and executive vice president of the nra, wayne lapierre. who is answering questions for the first time since the shooting. i want to get right to it. welcome back to the program. >> you promised that the nra would offer meaningful contributions to make sure this never happened again. this was your message. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> you proposed armed guards in school. we'll talk about that in some detail in a moment. you confronted the news media, you blamed hollywood and the gaming industry but never once did you concede that guns could actually be part of the problem. is that meaningful contribution, mr. lapierre, or a dodge? >> david, i said what i honestly thought and what hundreds of millions of people all over this country will believe will actually make a difference. i can't imagine a more horrible tragedy. we all have 5-year-olds in our family in some way. we all put ourselves in that situation and have tears in our eyes. the nra, we have 11,0
out. craig? >> republicans are going to have to show a little more ankle. i'll be using that. mike viquiera, from 1600 pennsylvania, thank you, good sir. so will a deal get done by the january 1st deadline? here's what one prominent republican senator had to say this morning. >> i think we're going off the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. you can limit deductions to $40,000, $50,000 a person which takes care of the middle class, upper-income americans will lose about $800 billion in revenue. the president's plan when it comes to entitlement reform is quite frankly a joke. i don't think they're serious about finding a deal. >> joining me are our special panelist of journalists, anna marie cox and karen tumblty, a political reporter for the "washington post." good sunday afternoon to both of you. >> anna marie, let me start with you. for about two days after the election, everyone is holding hands, singing kumbaya. no one is singing any more. all of that optimism seems to have disappeared. we're hearing more lawmakers saying publicly, we just heard
. i had protection, and i was willing to use it. >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the world's longest running television program, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >> good sunday morning. it's been nine days since the tragic shooting at sandy hook elementary in newtown, connecticut and the debate over gun control has been revived. here with us exclusively this morning, the man at the ten ter of that debate, the ceo and executive vice president of the nra, wayne lapierre. i want to get right to it. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> you proposed armed guards in school. we'll talk about that in some detail in a moment. you confronted the news media, you blamed hollywood and the gaming industry but never once did you concede that guns could actually be part of the problem. is that meaningful contribution, mr. lapierre, or a dodge? >> david, i said what i honestly thought and what hundreds of millions of people all over this country will believe will actually make a difference. i can't imagine a more horrible tragedy. we all
't agree, or is he using this for leverage to cut a better deal than the $400,000 the president is offering? regardless, right now, it seems like there is still chance for them to work together. especially after the tragedy at sandy hook elementary. >> to the extent that an event like that, as tragic as it is, brings us a little closer together, both in the nation and in washington, that would be a good thing. >> i continue to have hope that we can reach an agreement. it's not a time to put americans through more stress. >> later this morning, president obama will officially announce that like vice president biden will take charge of an effort to-like at policy in the wake of the murder of 20 children and 6 women in newtown, connecticut. i want to bring in "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page and for "the chicago sun times," lynn swede. good morning. let me start with the fiscal cliff, pause because we only ha days left. harry reid declared boehner's plan doa. let me play what he said. >> every time we get down to getting something for the long-term financial security of this coun
a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is. the president, though, is enjoying vacation, but still continuing to keep tabs on the fiscal cliff negotiations, correct? >> he is. white house officials describe this as a working vacation. i think there have been maybe a few conversations at the staff level about the fiscal cliff, but the reality is, thomas, the negotiations have largely stalled. you remember president obama on friday urging lawmakers to take this time off to really cool off, come back later this week with a appreciate perspective. i think you're going to see the hard work, the real negotiations resume when lawmakers go back into session after the christmas holiday. now, last week it seemed as though president obama, house speaker john boehner we
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